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12th Jan 10, 20:20
Well, what else is Mayfield going to do? If he can prove anything Brian did, that would take away from the case NASCAR has against him. As long as it's within the rules, anything goes in court. There are no sacred cows.
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12th Jan 10, 23:39
It is a vindictive temper tantrum. Jeremy thinks everyone else is on drugs, and the whole thing is slagging Brian France wont prove his not being guilty of doing meth. His whole defense is throw lots of mud around so everyone doesn't pay too much time thinking about the evidence which is damning. To think, he got rid of a lawyer who Bruton Smith would hire to have this defence with Geragos..
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13th Jan 10, 09:45
If the records of Brian France's divorce case show he was a resident of SC, and nothing has changed since then; then claiming he's a resident of FL (for the purpose of getting the case moved to Federal court) could amount to a perjury charge against him. The case could be sent back to SC court. The judge could issue a judgment requiring Nascar to pay for Mayfield's legal bills for the six months this delaying tactic has denied Mayfield justice.
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13th Jan 10, 19:34
Jonesi, what Brian's divorce has to do with Mayfield's drug use or non-drug use is apples and oranges. The guy who dragged France into this was Mayfield, so for him to be now crying that France's legal residence is dragging the trial out is nonsense. One doesn't have anything to do with the other. Mayfield is spending more time trying to discredit Brian France than proving that he isn't a drug addict. So far he has tested positive twice, and the second test was a witnessed test ( they saw him provide the sample ). The lab is a respected lab and all protocols used were just fine for other clients of the lab. This is all just a big smoke screen designed to muddy the water and attack France in revenge I guess.
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13th Jan 10, 23:24
I don't think it's a smoke screen and there are some legitimate issues involved. We'll know on Jan 19 when Brian France has to give a deposition.
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13th Jan 10, 23:57
Maybe I am missing something. What does Brian France's divorce or place of residence have to do with Mayfield testing positive for drugs? ZERO. NADA, NOTHING. IF Mayfield wants to call into question the protocols or testing procedures, I get that. If he wants to call into question the competancy of the doctors, I understand that. THAT makes sense. Dragging Brian France's divorce into this means you are just hoping to drag him through the mud with you....
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14th Jan 10, 02:18
It does have a bearing! Brian France not living in SC was the reason given by Nascar lawyers for pulling the case out of SC court and putting it in Federal court where they knew it wouldn't go to trail for at least a year. Did you even read the last quote from the Federal judge when he set the Jan 19 date? he said if BF lived in SC then it voided the motion and he might be forced to send it back. "CHARLOTTE – U.S. District Court Judge Graham Mullen says the battle between Jeremy Mayfield and NASCAR over access to the suspended driver’s medical records will have to wait until he can resolve jurisdictional issues, but in the meantime, Mayfield says life remains “as good as it can be.” During a 15-minute court hearing Thursday, Mullen said he expects NASCAR Chairman Brian France will have to testify before him over whether his residence for jurisdictional purposes is North Carolina or Florida. If Mullen determines that France is a resident of North Carolina, he could rule that North Carolina Superior Court has jurisdiction and not federal court. “Until that’s resolved, anything the court does is subject to review later if the court doesn’t have jurisdiction,” Mullen said during the hearing."
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14th Jan 10, 05:25
Great, But again, who dragged Brian France into this testimony business? Who subpoenaed Brian? I can tell you who: Jeremy and his defence team. Brian didn't test Mayfield, Brian wasn't in the room when Mayfield provided the sample, and while he is head of NASCAR, his policy people are the ones who designed the drug testing procedures. While I get where you are going on the jurisdictional considerations and France obviously has delayed this process with his indeteriminate place of residence, in the end, I don't see this changing anything but when the trial takes place. I am going to grant you that Brian being dragged into this is dragging it out, but who put Him in there? I think Helton and the staff who run the series on a day to day basis are the people who should be testifying. This is as silly as someone suing Ford because they had a bad car, and it all being held up because the CEO wasn't available. People sue Ford every day but I suspect Alan Mulally isn't involved....
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24th Jan 10, 07:34
Good Article, but it the whole critcism of NASCAR for not publically listing the banned drugs is a red herring. No one in their right mind would advocate a driver passing positive for Crystal meth use should be driving a race car. Mayfield's attorney's are grasping at making NASCAR look bad but the whole issue still comes back to the lab using reputable methods for its testing, and the possiblity that the drug postive test could be easily explained. IN the first positive test, I thought there was reasonable doubt, but on the second positive test, protocols and all such issues were checked and double checked AND numerous experts have been on shows such as Sirius Speedway stating there is no over the counter med reaction that could explain the type of positive test that was shown in the Mayfield cases. All we have is more spin from defense attorney's trying to muddy the water...
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4th Feb 10, 01:34
Ridiculous the circus he headed up to deny all this. An addict and a loser.
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5th Feb 10, 16:37
Jonesi...again, where does this prove that Mayfield isn't a drug addict? Brian France didn't test positive, he just had a divorce and a re-marriage, but somehow this idiot lawyer Mayfield has is tossing mud around to try to confuse the issue. No jury with half a brain will get sucked in. The fact is Mayfield tested positive for Crystal Meth. TWICE.
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6th Feb 10, 21:50
I don't support the current topic nor defend any drugf use> All I can say is we sure came along way from "runnin shine".
Kick them ALL out untill proven guilty then burn them on the backstreach. Theres no place in any racing for a person or people to even be suspected of these allegations.
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7th Feb 10, 02:02
You mean the allegations that they were runnin shine?
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7th Feb 10, 02:07
NASCAR was formed from rumrunners and shiners.
Before there was orginized racing there was the runners racing on weekends. I'd name names but then I'd have to dig a hole and hide.
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7th Feb 10, 02:35
Horrors...moonshiners..... The thing is, Bill France would have kicked out anyone showing up drunk or under the influence if he caught him. He may not have a bit in the old days, but this is a huge business now, and guys are doing 190mph out there or better. The last thing they need is a methhead...
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7th Feb 10, 02:53
As in my earlier statement I say the same thing:in this day and age even so much as A beer could cause so much disorientation it would harm not only the sport but the people who come to endorse it. I truly believe the equiptment that is being used as early as the 60's would need only a TRUE professional.clean,sober night in and night out COMPLELY dedicated to the rules and laws of both physics and NASCAR.
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9th Feb 10, 01:37
As a drug addict who got cleaned up over 16 years ago, I can only hope that the allegations are not true, and that if they are that Jeremy can somehow overcome his addiction and move on with his life in a positive and productive manner.
If the results were tampered with, may God have mercy on all those who have condemmed him. If they weren't tampered with, may God have mercy on Jeremy.
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